General NFL discussion thread

[thefreakytiki]

Tom,

All joking aside, is your green and gold stomach in knots because of Sunday?  I can honestly say the two week break is killing me!


the Tiki

[Papercut]

For purely entertainment purposes, of course:   

OK everyone, call your "neighborhood financial advisor" here are the SUPERBOWL prop bets...

Super Bowl XLV - Pittsburgh Steelers Total Team Points
Over/Under 21

Super Bowl XLV - Green Bay Packers Total Team Points
Over/Under 23.5

Super Bowl XLV - Pittsburgh Steelers Total 1st Half Team Points
Over/Under 11.5

Super Bowl XLV - Green Bay Packers Total 1st Half Team Points
Over/Under 12


Super Bowl Media Props

Super Bowl XLV Specials - What will the TV Rating be?
Over/Under Nielsen Rating 46

Super Bowl XLV Specials - Which region will have the higher local TV Rating?
Pittsburgh -140
Green Bay EVEN

Super Bowl XLV - How long will it take Christina Aguilera to sing the National Anthem?
Over/Under 1 minute 50 seconds

Super Bowl XLV - How long will Christina Aguilera hold the note “Brave” at the end of the National Anthem?
Over/Under 6 seconds

Super Bowl XLV Specials - Will Christina Aguilera wear a cowboy hat while singing the National Anthem?
Yes 3/1

Super Bowl XLV Specials - Will Christina Aguilera's hair color be anything except completely blonde when she sings the National Anthem?
Yes 7/4

Super Bowl XLV Specials - What will Fergie be wearing when she appears first on stage during the Super Bowl Halftime Show?
Skirt/Dress 1/1
Pants (Below Knees) 1/1
Shorts (Above Knees) 7/2
Thong/G-String/Bikini Bottom 10/1

Super Bowl XLV Specials - Will Fergie be dressed as a Dallas Cowboys Cheerleader at any point during the Halftime show?
Yes 5/1

Super Bowl XLV - How Many Times will FOX show Jerry Jones on TV during the Game?
Over/Under 3
(Wager is on the number of times Jerry Jones will appear on TV during the Game (from kick off until final whistle). Live pictures only, Any Taped Pictures or Past Video does not count towards wager.)

Super Bowl XLV – Who will FOX show first on TV during the game?
Jessica Szohr (Aaron Rodgers’ Girlfriend) -140
Ashley Harlan (Ben Roethlisberger’s Fiancée) Even

Super Bowl XLV - How Many Times will FOX mention “Brett Favre” on TV during the Game?
Over/Under 2.5
(Wager is on the number of times “Brett Favre” will be mentioned on TV during the Game (from kick off until final whistle). Live commentary only, Any Taped or Past Video does not count towards wager, must say “Brett Favre” exactly.)

Super Bowl XLV - How Many Times will FOX mention “Lockout” on TV during the Game?
Over/Under 2.5
(Wager is on the number of times “Lockout” will be mentioned on TV during the Game (from kick off until final whistle). Live commentary only, Any Taped or Past Video does not count towards wager, must say “Lockout” exactly.)

Super Bowl XLV - Who will the FOX announcers say has better hair TV during the Game?
Troy Polamalu -120
Clay Matthews -120

Super Bowl XLV - What Color will the Gatorade be that is dumped on the Head Coach of the Winning Super Bowl Team?
Yellow 3/2
Clear/Water 2/1
Orange 5/2
Lime Green 5/1
Red 15/2
Blue 10/1

Super Bowl XLV - What side of the ball will the Players that perform the Gatorade Shower be from?
Offensive +150
Defensive -200

Super Bowl XLV - Who will the Super Bowl MVP of the Game thank first?
God 3/2
Does Not Thank Anyone 2/1
Teammates 5/2
Family 4/1
Coach 10/1

Super Bowl XLV - Will a punt hit the scoreboard during the game?
Yes 10/1

Super Bowl XLV Specials - Will a Steelers player do the Aaron Rodgers Championship Belt Celebration during the game?
Yes EVEN
No -140

Super Bowl XLV Specials - Will Any Player do the Lambeau Leap after a TD?
Yes 2/1

Super Bowl XLV - Will B.J.Raji be on the field for at least 1 offensive play?
Yes -175
No +135

Super Bowl XLV - Who will President Obama pick to win the game?
Pittsburgh Steelers -140
Green Bay Packers Even

Super Bowl XLV -How many current NFL Players will be arrested during Super Bowl Week?
Over 0.5 +150
Under 0.5 -200

Super Bowl XLV - Which Super Bowl commercial will have a higher rating on USA Today's annual Ad Meter?
Bud Light 11/4
Budweiser 11/4
Doritos 11/2
Pepsi Max 6/1
GoDaddy.com 10/1
Skechers 12/1
Teleflora 15/1
Other 5/2

Super Bowl XLV Specials - If there is a picture of someone holding the Lombardi Trophy on the Cover of the USA Today on Monday February 7th, who will it be?
Aaron Rodgers 3/2
Ben Roethlisberger 3/1
Troy Polamalu 12/1
Clay Matthews 15/1
Mike Tomlin 18/1
Mike McCarthy 18/1
Any Other Pittsburgh Player 2/1
Any Other Green Bay Player 2/1
Any Other Person 15/1
Jerry Jones 100/1

Super Bowl XLV Specials - What will happen with the Dow Jones the day after the Super Bowl?
Market Up -140
Market Down EVEN


Super Bowl Game Props

Super Bowl XLV - What will be the result of the Super Bowl XLV Coin Toss?
Heads (Coin Toss) -105
Tails (Coin Toss) -105

Super Bowl XLV - Team to win the opening coin toss
Pittsburgh Steelers (Win Opening Coin Toss) -105
Green Bay Packers (Win Opening Coin Toss) -105

Super Bowl XLV - Team to score first in the game
Pittsburgh Steelers (Score First) Even
Green Bay Packers (Score First) -130

Super Bowl XLV - Will there be a score in the first 7min 30 seconds of the 1st quarter?
Yes (First 7 min 30 sec of 1st Qtr) -175
No (First 7 min 30 sec of 1st Qtr) +145

Super Bowl XLV - Will Either team score 3 unanswered times in the game?
Yes (3 Unanswered Scores) -180
No (3 Unanswered Scores) +150

Super Bowl XLV - Will there be a score in the final 2 minutes of the 1st half?
Yes (Score in Final 2 Minutes of 1st Half) -260
No (Score in Final 2 Minutes of 2nd Half) +200

Super Bowl XLV - Which Will be the Highest Scoring Quarter?
1st Quarter 4/1
2nd Quarter 8/5
3rd Quarter 4/1
4th Quarter 2/1

Super Bowl XLV - Will the game go to overtime?
Yes (Overtime) +900
No (Overtime) -1800

Super Bowl XLV - Longest Touchdown Scored in the Game (Yardage)
Over/Under 43.5

Super Bowl XLV - Shortest Touchdown Scored in the Game (Yardage)
Over/Under 1.5

Super Bowl XLV - Will there be a Special Teams or Defensive Touchdown scored in the game?
Yes (Defensive or Special Teams TD) +145
No (Defensive or Special Teams TD) -175

Super Bowl XLV - Super Bowl XLV - What will be the result of the first coaches challenge in the game?
Play Overturned -130
Play Stands Even


Player Odds

SUPER BOWL XLV - Odds to win MVP
Aaron Rodgers (GB) QB 7/4
Ben Roethlisberger (PIT) QB 7/2
Rashard Mendenhall (PIT) RB 15/2
Greg Jennings (GB) WR 12/1
James Starks (GB) RB 14/1
Troy Polamalu (PIT) S 15/1
Mike Wallace (PIT) WR 16/1
Clay Matthews (GB) LB 18/1
Charles Woodson (GB) CB 20/1
James Harrison (PIT) LB 22/1
Tramon Williams (GB) CB 25/1
Hines Ward (PIT) WR 25/1
Heath Miller (PIT) TE 25/1
Donald Driver (GB) WR 25/1
James Farrior (PIT) LB 28/1
Lawrence Timmons (PIT) LB 28/1
James Jones (GB) WR 30/1
Jordy Nelson (GB) WR 30/1
A.J. Hawk (GB) LB 30/1
B.J. Raji (GB) DT 30/1
Emmanuel Sanders (PIT) WR 35/1
Sam Shields (GB) CB 35/1
Cullen Jenkins (GB) DE 50/1
Brandon Jackson (GB) RB 50/1
Field 15/1

SUPER BOWL XLV - Player to score the first TD in the game
Rashard Mendenhall (PIT) RB 5/1
Greg Jennings (GB) WR 13/2
Mike Wallace (PIT) WR 15/2
James Starks (GB) RB 17/2
John Kuhn (GB) FB 12/1
Hines Ward (PIT) WR 12/1
Heath Miller (PIT) TE 12/1
Donald Driver (GB) WR 12/1
James Jones (GB) WR 12/1
Jordy Nelson (GB) WR 14/1
Aaron Rodgers (GB) QB 14/1
Emmanuel Sanders (PIT) WR 16/1
Ben Roethlisberger (PIT) QB 16/1
Brandon Jackson (GB) RB 18/1
Andrew Quarless (GB) TE 20/1
Isaac Redman (PIT) RB 20/1
Antonio Brown (PIT) WR 25/1
Mewelde Moore (PIT) RB 28/1
Donald Lee (GB) TE 28/1
Any Other Pittsburgh Player 14/1
Any Other Green Bay Player 14/1
No TD Scored In The Game 50/1

SUPER BOWL XLV - Total Passing Yards - Ben Roethlisberger (PIT)
Over/Under 240.5

SUPER BOWL XLV - Total TD Passes - Ben Roethlisberger (PIT)
Over TD Passes O 1½ (+125)
Under TD Passes U 1½ (-155)

SUPER BOWL XLV - Total Passing Yards – Aaron Rodgers (GB)
Over/Under 275.5

SUPER BOWL XLV - Total TD Passes – Aaron Rodgers (GB)
Over TD Passes O 2 (+125)
Under TD Passes U 2 (-155)

SUPER BOWL XLV - Who will record more Rushing Yards in the game?
James Starks (GB) RB +25½ (-115)
Rashard Mendenhall (PIT) RB -25½ (-115)

SUPER BOWL XLV - Who will record more Receiving Yards in the game?
Mike Wallace (PIT) WR +9½ (-130)
Greg Jennings (GB) WR -9½ (EVEN)


Historical Matchups

HISTORICAL MATCHUP - Total Passing Yards, which will be higher?
Aaron Rodgers Super Bowl XLV -29½ (-110)
Brett Favre Super Bowl XXXI (246 Passing Yards) +29½ (-120)

HISTORICAL MATCHUP - Total TD Passes, which will be higher?
Aaron Rodgers Super Bowl XLV +125
Brett Favre Super Bowl XXXI (2 TD Passes) -155

HISTORICAL MATCHUP - Completion Percentage, which will be higher?
Aaron Rodgers Super Bowl XLV -11.5% +105
Brett Favre Super Bowl (51.8%) +11.5% -135

HISTORICAL MATCHUP - Total Passing yards, which will be higher?
Ben Roethlisberger Super Bowl XLV -115.5 Yards
Ben Roethlisberger Super Bowl XL (123 Passing Yards) +115.5 Yards

HISTORICAL MATCHUP - Total Passing yards, which will be higher?
Ben Roethlisberger Super Bowl XLV ` +15½ (-115)
Ben Roethlisberger Super Bowl XLIII (256 Passing Yards) -15½ (-115)

[Dave A]

For purely entertainment purposes, of course:   

Man... I didn't know Jim Lee posted on this forum!

 

[thefreakytiki]

Is it just me or is Roger Goodell putting his foot in his mouth WAY too much this season? 


the Tiki

[Mike Smith]

My girls grew beards to help support the Steelers.

[thefreakytiki]

THAT is hilarious.   


(and simply adorable.  I look forward to hearing how their circus career progresses.  )


the Tiki

[thefreakytiki]

OMG, it seems like EVERYONE is picking the Packers.  It doesn't matter if it is a NFL analyst, stat reading machine or a chicken picking corn out of bowls marked Steelers/Packers... Christ even my Daughter's Hello Kitty magic eight ball is going against my beloved Black and Gold.


I gotta stay strong.


The Tiki

[Farrell]

OMG, it seems like EVERYONE is picking the Packers.  It doesn't matter if it is a NFL analyst, stat reading machine or a chicken picking corn out of bowls marked Steelers/Packers... Christ even my Daughter's Hello Kitty magic eight ball is going against my beloved Black and Gold.


I gotta stay strong.


The Tiki

I'm sure the Steelers are picking the Steelers. 

Besides, if professional sports teams couldn't play the underdog card, I don't know what they'd say in interviews.

[Papercut]

Another year and another incomplete pass from the HOF to Chris Carter. 

[Papercut]

Oh, and I'm picking the Steelers.

[Wood]

Leave it to fans of a franchise with SIX rings already to delude themselves into "everyone is taking the Packers against us" for motivation. The line is -2.5...that means it's nearly 50/50 people betting on the Steelers and the Packers. SLIGHTLY more folks are taking the Packers to win, SLIGHTLY.

But if y'all need the motivation of thinking you're somehow being disrespected on your "Stairway to Seven", then go for it.

[kinetic]

I sense some bitterness, Wood. 
Or it could be the unmitigated hate of Big Ben.

[thefreakytiki]

Don't misunderstand my post.  I'm not on the field so the old sports motivational cliche of "us against the world" does nothing for me... I'm just realizing that I am a superstitious sports fan looking for a gleam of light.  


I know it's a 50/50 shot.  He'll, what I'm hoping for is that the Steelers' experience can take advantage of the first quarter.  When the lights are big and bright in Packers eyes the Steelers can grab a few quick points before the Packers get steadied by the begining of the second quarter.  Mind you, I believe this is the ONLY forseeable experience advantage I can think of.

The Tiki

[Wood]

I sense some bitterness, Wood. 
Or it could be the unmitigated hate of Big Ben.

Not at all. I just find it amusing that the "we're being disrespected" card could be played even by a team like the Steelers, that is as storied a franchise as exists in the league. The Giants were "disrespected" against the 18-0 Patriots. The Cardinals were "disrespected" against these very Steelers. Pittsburgh is hardly disrespected.

I think a lot of PIT fans or confusing people WANTING the Packers to win with people THINKING they're going to win. A lot more people do seem to WANT the Packers to win, which I think is understandable because the last thing most diehard fans want to see is another team start working it's way into a "modern dynasty" mode.

[Jeremy G]

I'm ready for pitchers and catcher's to report.

 

[kinetic]

Not at all. I just find it amusing that the "we're being disrespected" card could be played even by a team like the Steelers, that is as storied a franchise as exists in the league. The Giants were "disrespected" against the 18-0 Patriots. The Cardinals were "disrespected" against these very Steelers. Pittsburgh is hardly disrespected.

I think a lot of PIT fans or confusing people WANTING the Packers to win with people THINKING they're going to win. A lot more people do seem to WANT the Packers to win, which I think is understandable because the last thing most diehard fans want to see is another team start working it's way into a "modern dynasty" mode.

It's all good, Wood. I was only given you a little poke (thats what she said).
We have a similar phenomenon here in Australia in our "State of Origin" series for Rugby League. There are 2 teams only (NSW & Queensland) and every year Queensland claim underdog status. Last year they had won 4 series in a row, which is a record and the way they did it was just demorilizing to us NSW supporters. Yet, somehow, they come out every year and claim they are the underdogs, its us against the rest of Australia, everyone wants to see Queensland get beat, blah,blah, blah.....
And once again they came out and smashed us. Underdogs my arse.


In regards to Jeremy's post, When does baseball season start?

[thefreakytiki]

As I'm in the shower this morning something just occurred to me...  How akward/ironic would it be if James Harrison were lucky enough to win Superbowl MVP?  Just watching the exchange between Harrison and Goodell would be priceless!

The Tiki

[JimN]

Another year and another incomplete pass from the HOF to Cris Carter. 

I fixed that for you.

It's ridiculous that he didn't even make the cut ahead of Red this year. Carter was the second best receiver of his era, behind Rice, and he should have been a slam dunk entrant into the Hall. Now, I'm wondering if he'll even get in.

Every year, I hear HOF voters talk about the logjam of deserving players for the Hall while also talking about how the exclusivity of the Pro Football HOF helps make it special. If there's that much of a logjam (and there is) then perhaps it's time to let an extra player or two in per year. They certainly shouldn't be excluding players to vote in Ed Sabol. I'm not saying Sabol doesn't deserve a spot because I think he does but maybe candidates who weren't players or coaches need to go in as an extra inductee that year rather than bumping a deserving player from one of the few open slots.

Jim

[Papercut]

DAMN YOU MISSING "H" -- You've made a mockery of me as a Viking's fan!!   




Thanks Jim -- and I agree.

[zack kruse]

A friend of mine e-mailed me the link below. It's from the Washington City Paper, it's The Cranky Redskins Fan's Guide to Dan Snyder

http://mirror.washingtoncitypaper.com/articles/40063/the-cranky-redskins-fans-guide-to-dan-snyder.html

I REALLY don't like Snyder. At all. He's like a bratty 11 year old playing Madden, but is terrible at it. At least Vinny Cerrato's gone though, so I guess that's SOMETHING.

Anyway, I thought it was a sad and funny article about the leagues new, probably worse, Al Davis