The New DC Launch Thread [News, Titles, etc.]

[Hassan T]

I really dont understand the concept of writing for the trade. If the arcs are shortened to 2-3 issues an arc instead of 6 why wouldn't they just package two arc together. Why does there only have to be one? Preacher, Fables and many more have usually one 4 issue arc and then a 2-3 issue one as well.

Travis

A lot of the Green Lantern story arcs were 3 or 4 issues. There were a few cases where Johns told a story that was more than 6 or more chapters (Secret Origins, Sinestro Corps War). I doubt that the first JL arc will be the standard 6 issue story arc that has become the norm.

[jack239]

They definitely shouldn't force the issue and stretch stories to fill trades. They should let the stories take their natural course and if they end up being 1 or 2 issues, great. If they end up at 6 and conveniently fill a single a trade, that's great too, as long as they're good.

Jim

i agree it's just recently it's felt like they have done the opposite where if it works in six issues least do 8 or etc...

[GLewis]

If they're going to stick to the long story arcs, I hope they finally get their stuff together when it comes to their collected editions. If they're not going to release them any earlier, it would be great if they at least numbered them so new readers would know where to start.

[Night (Travis) Nurse]

If they're going to stick to the long story arcs, I hope they finally get their stuff together when it comes to their collected editions. If they're not going to release them any earlier, it would be great if they at least numbered them so new readers would know where to start.

I can see both sides to the numbering trades argument. From a sales perspective they want people to buy this at the book store, non comic regulars. If the number of the edition is 20, the person may be less likely to buy it thinking that they need to read the first 19. On the other hand its frustrating on the book shelf.

Travis

[GLewis]

I can see both sides to the numbering trades argument. From a sales perspective they want people to buy this at the book store, non comic regulars. If the number of the edition is 20, the person may be less likely to buy it thinking that they need to read the first 19. On the other hand its frustrating on the book shelf.

Travis

I've never understood that argument. When you buy a print book off the shelf, that's a part of a series, typically it will tell you what number it is, in that series. With very few exceptions, you DO need to read one through nineteen to understand the latest book and any good bookstore will have those books in stock. I know comic book companies will sometimes wait a long time to reprint their trades, but that's something they need to fix. If volume one sells out, doesn't that mean there's a demand for a second printing? I don't put this on the comic stores. This is another problem with the way the comic book industry does business.

Granted, you may not need to read all the previous trades to understand the story in the newest volume. However, in this day and age people expect to have access to these earlier stories, the same way they have access to TV series or movies on DVD or a digital streaming service. We may know it doesn't always matter, but if you're trying to attract new readers, then it is imperative that the industry conform to their expectations.

[Night (Travis) Nurse]

I've never understood that argument. When you buy a print book off the shelf, that's a part of a series, typically it will tell you what number it is, in that series. With very few exceptions, you DO need to read one through nineteen to understand the latest book and any good bookstore will have those books in stock. I know comic book companies will sometimes wait a long time to reprint their trades, but that's something they need to fix. If volume one sells out, doesn't that mean there's a demand for a second printing? I don't put this on the comic stores. This is another problem with the way the comic book industry does business.

Granted, you may not need to read all the previous trades to understand the story in the newest volume. However, in this day and age people expect to have access to these earlier stories, the same way they have access to TV series or movies on DVD or a digital streaming service. We may know it doesn't always matter, but if you're trying to attract new readers, then it is imperative that the industry conform to their expectations.

I understand what your saying but I think the two thing to consider are;

1: Most prose books don't go up to book 20. Maybe theres three or four. Imagine what Spiderman volume we'd be on if they were numbered from issue #1.

2: I think the comic industry markets their trades as impulse buys to adults and kids and not numbering makes them more accessible. They know the collector is going to buy it but there trying to get the quick sale.

To be honest I speak with absolutely no real knowledge in either Comic/Collected marketing or the book store sales aspect. This is just my hypothesis.

I completely agree with you on the tardiness and reprint aspect of it though.

Travis

[Splatoon]

New Suicide Squad title, Hell Yea-Oh wait, written by Adam Glass? Who has previously written...let's see...oh, crap. But hey, at least they killed off one of favorite series to mine it for characters! Wooo! 

[GLewis]

I understand what your saying but I think the two thing to consider are;

1: Most prose books don't go up to book 20. Maybe theres three or four. Imagine what Spiderman volume we'd be on if they were numbered from issue #1.

2: I think the comic industry markets their trades as impulse buys to adults and kids and not numbering makes them more accessible. They know the collector is going to buy it but there trying to get the quick sale.

To be honest I speak with absolutely no real knowledge in either Comic/Collected marketing or the book store sales aspect. This is just my hypothesis.

I completely agree with you on the tardiness and reprint aspect of it though.

Travis

1. I'll give you this one, although I do think there is a way to number them, without having to go all the way back. Put a year on them, then vol. number or something like that.

2. Trying to get the quick sale may be a part of the problem, don't you think? If you're in the business of publishing serialized entertainment, then one would think, you want people to follow the story from volume to volume. What business doesn't want to build a loyal customer base? I see your point here. I just think this is the wrong attitude for a business like this to have.

I don't know anything about the business either. Just my opinions. Karma.

[Night (Travis) Nurse]

1. I'll give you this one, although I do think there is a way to number them, without having to go all the way back. Put a year on them, then vol. number or something like that.

2. Trying to get the quick sale may be a part of the problem, don't you think? If you're in the business of publishing serialized entertainment, then one would think, you want people to follow the story from volume to volume. What business doesn't want to build a loyal customer base? I see your point here. I just think this is the wrong attitude for a business like this to have.

I don't know anything about the business either. Just my opinions. Karma.

RE:1 - I agree, Years of published stories on the spine would be cool, good idea.

RE:2 - Yea, like I said they already assume they have your $ no matter what they do. Your right though, they need a way to make the later volumes easily accessible but not over whelming.

Karma back at cha

Travis

[jack239]

1. I'll give you this one, although I do think there is a way to number them, without having to go all the way back. Put a year on them, then vol. number or something like that.

2. Trying to get the quick sale may be a part of the problem, don't you think? If you're in the business of publishing serialized entertainment, then one would think, you want people to follow the story from volume to volume. What business doesn't want to build a loyal customer base? I see your point here. I just think this is the wrong attitude for a business like this to have.

I don't know anything about the business either. Just my opinions. Karma.

they should named by the storyline and have the volume and year easy to find on the inside.

that is where i think dc does better in trades, its flash:______ not flash vol 1 next flash vol 1 by a different writer 10 years apart.

[Perseus]

New Suicide Squad title, Hell Yea-Oh wait, written by Adam Glass? Who has previously written...let's see...oh, crap. But hey, at least they killed off one of favorite series to mine it for characters! Wooo! 

He has written and  produced episodes of Supernatural and other series.

[JimN]

they should named by the storyline and have the volume and year easy to find on the inside.

That info is almost always easily found on the edition notice or copyright page.

I don't think numbering trades is necessary. All these companies have to do is make sure the back cover of each book lists the issue #s collected in that book and informs the consumer (in cases where it applies) that reading prior volumes is unnecessary. If they want to make each trade even more consumer-friendly, they can include some some pertinent info in the front   (Cast of characters, a brief summary of important events leading up to the current volume, etc.). All it would take is a page or two.

Jim

[David]

Today's Gutters made me chuckle.  (And it's drawn by Jason Pearson!)

[GLewis]

they should named by the storyline and have the volume and year easy to find on the inside.

that is where i think dc does better in trades, its flash:______ not flash vol 1 next flash vol 1 by a different writer 10 years apart.

What good does having that information, on the inside, do for a NEW reader?

[thefreakytiki]

Dan Didio comments on the JSA on his Facebook page (at least that is the link)...

AS for JSA, we have decided to rest this concept while we devote our attention on the launch of the three new Justice League series. As for other characters and series not part of the initial 52, there are plenty of stories to be told, and we’re just getting started. best, DD

middle of BC article... http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/13/monday-runaround-welcome-to-stark-expo/


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[deadcowaroma]

Dan Didio comments on the JSA on his Facebook page (at least that is the link)...

AS for JSA, we have decided to rest this concept while we devote our attention on the launch of the three new Justice League series. As for other characters and series not part of the initial 52, there are plenty of stories to be told, and we’re just getting started. best, DD

middle of BC article... http://www.bleedingcool.com/2011/06/13/monday-runaround-welcome-to-stark-expo/


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Makes sense, especially since they are making Superman the world's first superhero again.

[thefreakytiki]

http://www.comicsalliance.com/2011/06/12/green-lantern-new-guardians-teaser-image/

Who Are DC's 'The New Guardians?' [Exclusive Teaser]





DC Comics has provided us with an exclusive teaser image of September's Green Lantern: New Guardians #1 by writer Tony Bedard with covers and interiors by Tyler Kirkham and Batt. All that's been confirmed so far is that Kyle Rayner will be heading a group composed of leaders from the wider spectrum of corps -- Rage, Avarice, Fear, Will, Hope, Compassion and Love. Can you pick out all six lanterns joining Rayner's new guardians?


I think the new Guardians are...

Green: Kyle
Orange: Globulos
Yellow: Akrillo
Blue: St. Walker
Purple: Star Saphire (Carol)
Indigo: the big male Indigo guy
Red: the bat chick whose name I never caught

This could be a real fun one considering the conflicting personalities.


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[thefreakytiki]

Full DC solicits are up...

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/dc-comics-september-2011-solicitations-110613.html

(I am not copying and pasting this behemoth )



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[jack239]

What good does having that information, on the inside, do for a NEW reader?

new readers don't care about what year or etc.

most just want to be able to pick it up an under stand it. it's later when they start to get in to that order becomes important.

i like that dc will have a whole storyline easy to find.

Sinestro war vol 1 and 2  Superman the black ring vol 1 and 2 and etc...  that is easy to get. new reader seem to me ( really i am looking at my roommates) not to care so much about where things fit into to continuity at first.

That info is almost always easily found on the edition notice or copyright page.

I don't think numbering trades is necessary. All these companies have to do is make sure the back cover of each book lists the issue #s collected in that book and informs the consumer (in cases where it applies) that reading prior volumes is unnecessary. If they want to make each trade even more consumer-friendly, they can include some some pertinent info in the front   (Cast of characters, a brief summary of important events leading up to the current volume, etc.). All it would take is a page or two.

Jim

issue collected is great, short bio or etc.. would be good.

[thefreakytiki]

Grant Morrison talks Superman reboot...

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/XFvL6s9r7GE&rel=1" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/v/XFvL6s9r7GE&rel=1</a>


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