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« Reply #20 on: 08:02 PM | Friday, February 24, 2012 » |
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Gillen's Uncanny run has been underappreciated, in my opinion. He's been throwing out some pretty great and original ideas/characters in recent issues that are quite inspired.
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« Reply #21 on: 08:02 PM | Friday, February 24, 2012 » |
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To those who think that Rob's comments re: the X-men were somehow misguided, I would commend Jonathan Hickman's interviews on Word Balloon to your attention. Hickman -- one of the architects has said the same thing, even indicating that S.H.I.E.L.D. was going to be an X-centric book until Marvel lawyers told him that would be unwise b/c it would preclude any movie/TV possibilities.
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« Reply #22 on: 09:02 PM | Friday, February 24, 2012 » |
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To those who think that Rob's comments re: the X-men were somehow misguided, I would commend Jonathan Hickman's interviews on Word Balloon to your attention. Hickman -- one of the architects has said the same thing, even indicating that S.H.I.E.L.D. was going to be an X-centric book until Marvel lawyers told him that would be unwise b/c it would preclude any movie/TV possibilities.
I was more alluding to the statement claiming creators being told they cannot create new characters for the X-men line (specifically villains). That rang false to me, I'm not sitting here with a list in front of me but I'm pretty sure their have been new faces in the X universe over the past decade. As far as editorial pushing creators to create new properties for lines they can exploit on the screen, sadly yes, I can see that happening. And I'm not trying to harp on Rob. I just take that kind of stuff with a grain of salt when the source has open misgivings with the company being discussed. It's only human.
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« Reply #23 on: 09:02 PM | Friday, February 24, 2012 » |
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Blease don't let these moves result in removing Aaron from Wolverine and the X-Men or Remender from Uncanny X-Force. That is all. Just please.... don't....please....  Agreed. I also find it strange that Marvel would allow a creator to take over and thus change the direction of what are the company's most successful titles both critically and commercially.
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« Reply #24 on: 09:02 PM | Friday, February 24, 2012 » |
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I've seen this prediction over and over. That would be a disaster for me. From the X-titles being the best place in years to be probably having to drop some of them.
We're in the same boat here. Much props to Bendis, but I'd rather see new writers get time to shine. He's been the main voice of Marvel for quite some times, and I was never a huge fan. Aaron and Remender have been killing it. Gillen seems to have a great handle on his team. I'm looking forward to seeing more from them. I'd hate to see any of that change in favor of yet even more Bendis.
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« Reply #25 on: 11:02 PM | Friday, February 24, 2012 » |
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Blease don't let these moves result in removing Aaron from Wolverine and the X-Men or Remender from Uncanny X-Force. That is all. Just please.... don't....please....  I think Aaron's said that he plans to be on the book for a long time.
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« Reply #26 on: 11:02 PM | Friday, February 24, 2012 » |
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If bendis takes over the X-line, this would move Aaron out. If that's the case, there is an opening on a bunch of Avengers books that i would love to see him fill
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« Reply #27 on: 12:02 AM | Saturday, February 25, 2012 » |
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I was more alluding to the statement claiming creators being told they cannot create new characters for the X-men line (specifically villains). That rang false to me, I'm not sitting here with a list in front of me but I'm pretty sure their have been new faces in the X universe over the past decade.
Gillen introduced brand new villains to the x-universe this month in Uncanny: the Apex. Pretty awesome sci-fi Evolutionary concept which mirrors the human/mutant issue but at the macro, long-term level for a fictional society. Absolutely clear that creators In the x-men books can certaInly still create great new villains--Aaron is creating like crazy in WolverIne and the X-Men too.
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« Reply #28 on: 04:02 PM | Saturday, February 25, 2012 » |
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To those who think that Rob's comments re: the X-men were somehow misguided, I would commend Jonathan Hickman's interviews on Word Balloon to your attention. Hickman -- one of the architects has said the same thing, even indicating that S.H.I.E.L.D. was going to be an X-centric book until Marvel lawyers told him that would be unwise b/c it would preclude any movie/TV possibilities. Wasn't the S.H.I.E.L.D. title also originally intended to be about S.W.O.R.D., & thereby, part of the reason for the cancellation of S.W.O.R.D.?
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« Reply #29 on: 07:02 PM | Saturday, February 25, 2012 » |
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Wasn't the S.H.I.E.L.D. title also originally intended to be about S.W.O.R.D., & thereby, part of the reason for the cancellation of S.W.O.R.D.?
The first part sounds right but S.W.O.R.D. sales were very low from the beginning. There were plans for a second arc but by the third issue the cancellation was announced.
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« Reply #30 on: 08:02 PM | Saturday, February 25, 2012 » |
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The first part sounds right but S.W.O.R.D. sales were very low from the beginning. There were plans for a second arc but by the third issue the cancellation was announced.
That's why I said "part", but also this was one of those "Whoops, issue #1's sales aren't what we thought. Well, let's pull the plug" deals. Nevermind that you plaster an event name like crazy over the covers of issues regardless of how peripherally they may be related to the event, but S.W.O.R.D.? Anyone even consider mentioning the X-Men on the cover? Couldn't they have sold a few hundred more copies just on that alone? You listening marketing people?
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« Reply #31 on: 10:02 PM | Saturday, February 25, 2012 » |
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That's why I said "part", but also this was one of those "Whoops, issue #1's sales aren't what we thought. Well, let's pull the plug" deals. Nevermind that you plaster an event name like crazy over the covers of issues regardless of how peripherally they may be related to the event, but S.W.O.R.D.? Anyone even consider mentioning the X-Men on the cover? Couldn't they have sold a few hundred more copies just on that alone? You listening marketing people?
That has more with wanting S.H.I.E.L.D. to be part of something that wasn't X-centric then S.W.O.R.D. needing to be cancelled. (Boy it's harder typing with these crazy letter titles that need dots between them  ). S.W.O.R.D. was tied into Spider-Woman, had Beast on the cover, and the hugely popular Astonishing X-Men. That's great marketing potential already. You can't launch ever series with big names writers and artists. Good up and coming names with great stories that didn't click with readers/retailers. I don't think a few hundred more copies would have made a difference.
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« Reply #32 on: 11:02 PM | Saturday, February 25, 2012 » |
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I believe SHIELD was supposed to be SWORD originally. However, with SWORD being an X-Men property and thus owned by FOX for future movie and TV considerations, it became SHIELD so that it would stay in the Marvel property camp.
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« Reply #33 on: 11:02 PM | Saturday, February 25, 2012 » |
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I think Bendis moving to the x-titles is going to leave the door open for Fraction to take over the New Avengers and I think his Defenders series is nothing more than an extended lead in to that new title. I assume Bendis will write the Avengers Assembled book for awhile so he'll still have the flagship book but Fraction will likely create a new team of New Avengers by integrating members from the Defenders. That's my guess at least.
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« Reply #34 on: 02:02 PM | Sunday, February 26, 2012 » |
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I can't wait to see the X-Men watching TV. 
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« Reply #35 on: 07:02 PM | Sunday, February 26, 2012 » |
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I hope he stays away from Uncanny X-Force and X-Factor 
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« Reply #36 on: 12:02 PM | Monday, February 27, 2012 » |
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I cite his run on Ultimate X-Men. It was really the worst run of the book until Ultimatum and such. I fear for the mutants but really overall for me they made them so wack that I really don't care. I feel like WatXM and UXF are like happy cotdamn accidents. The X-Men ain't made for talking. I bet for that book instead of having everyone talk like a Mamet film or a Sorkin script everyone will talk like Buffy and Angel episodes. 
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« Reply #37 on: 02:02 PM | Monday, February 27, 2012 » |
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I cite his run on Ultimate X-Men. It was really the worst run of the book until Ultimatum and such. I fear for the mutants but really overall for me they made them so wack that I really don't care. I feel like WatXM and UXF are like happy cotdamn accidents. The X-Men ain't made for talking. I bet for that book instead of having everyone talk like a Mamet film or a Sorkin script everyone will talk like Buffy and Angel episodes.  You ever read a Claremont issue?
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« Reply #38 on: 02:02 PM | Monday, February 27, 2012 » |
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You ever read a Claremont issue?
They talk a lot in Claremont stuff, but they're in action while they do it.
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« Reply #39 on: 03:02 PM | Monday, February 27, 2012 » |
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They talk a lot in Claremont stuff, but they're in action while they do it.
They might of been doing stuff more often but to say that Claremont had less dialogue than Bendis does I don't think would be accurate. In my opinion. Also, does a three paragraph inner-monologue count as dialogue? You get about three of those an issue from Claremont.
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