The OFFICIAL AvX Thread

[RickV]

I realized after the fact much like Kick Ass I was letting my love for Romita Jr cloud the story. This right here does a pretty great job at summing up problems with #1

http://comixcube.com/2012/04/04/avengers-versus-x-men-1-because-you-demanded-it/

[Hassan T]

Was it me or did they purposely choose to ignore all the time since the Dark Phoenix saga that the Phoenix has been around with and without Jean?

Like Xorneto killed Phoenix powered Jean in New X-Men. She wasn't threatening the Earth then. Endsong? Umm Days of Future Present? Secret Wars 2?

I think the days of strong continuity at Marvel is long gone. It has been that way since Quesada took over as EIC. They use what they like or when it helps the story but ignore complete runs or pockets of history.

[David]

This right here does a pretty great job at summing up problems with #1

I tried reading it, but the xoxoxoxo joke killed any momentum the review had.  I'm sure Ayo is witty and clever, but I just don't have time for it right now.

My loss.

[slurmo]

Is it wrong that I just read the book and didn't try to dissect it? It was good and that's good enough for me.

It wasn't a perfect book, but it was good.

[Lawrence]

Is it wrong that I just read the book and didn't try to dissect it? It was good and that's good enough for me.

It wasn't a perfect book, but it was good.

Some days I don't know who you are! 

You're supposed to say snoozefest!

[aelfinn]

Is it wrong that I just read the book and didn't try to dissect it? It was good and that's good enough for me.

It wasn't a perfect book, but it was good.

you mean we can just enjoy something for what it is??? 

[Dean S.]

What was up with those joust thingies at the end of the issue? Were the Avengers on American Gladiators?

They're swimming pool noodles.  As mentioned, the non-fliers have them.  So, they'll just jump from the quinjet, splash into the water and then use their noodles to swim to shore. 

[Wood]

you mean we can just enjoy something for what it is??? 

That's the approach I'm taking, too.

I view this like I view summer popcorn movies. When I watch Transformer Dark Side of the Moon, I'm not looking to critique every bit of dialog or whether the scenes were framed correctly, or whether there was enough gravitas to the supporting character arcs. I'm turning off part of my brain and letting the part that loves robots, stuff blowing up, and big sounds run free.

But when I watched The Descendents? I took a long time thinking about each actor's performance, whether the movie was emotionally significant enough to warrant the accolades, whether the music in the background fit the moment, etc...

Same thing with comics.  If you go into AvX expecting LEOG or Scalped, you're DOOMED from the start.

[RickV]

I generally agree with that philosophy but even the needs of basic entertainment comic weren't fulfilled because all the little things just stacked up until it threw me out, and taking the comic as it is all those little bits are part of it too. Transformers Dark of the Moon doesn't have 30 years of continuity balancing because it throws all that bullshit out so Michael Bay can show people how to shoot action and how he has way to much fun with the camera and having bizarre character actors in small parts.

I still demand quality from my popcorn and frankly I could get more action per page with less headaches about content of plot from a Mark Millar comic. (John Romita JR. draws those too!)

[slurmo]

Some days I don't know who you are! 

You're supposed to say snoozefest!

I saved that description for the Nova powerpoint presentation   

[David]

That's the approach I'm taking, too.

 

Same here.

I enjoyed the first issue.

[Julian Lytle]

That's the approach I'm taking, too.

I view this like I view summer popcorn movies. When I watch Transformer Dark Side of the Moon, I'm not looking to critique every bit of dialog or whether the scenes were framed correctly, or whether there was enough gravitas to the supporting character arcs. I'm turning off part of my brain and letting the part that loves robots, stuff blowing up, and big sounds run free.

But when I watched The Descendents? I took a long time thinking about each actor's performance, whether the movie was emotionally significant enough to warrant the accolades, whether the music in the background fit the moment, etc...

Same thing with comics.  If you go into AvX expecting LEOG or Scalped, you're DOOMED from the start.

But what about those of us who didn't? Not even dissecting it just they only referenced the Dark Phoenix saga that stood out to me. When I watched them TF movies Prime didn't start turning into tank out of nowhere. Sam was still the same Sam from 1 and two.

Sometimes the big superhero book ain't popping for er'body. Oh and Nova was mad confusing, why is he so little?

[legion of daves]

Sometimes the big superhero book ain't popping for er'body. Oh and Nova was mad confusing, why is he so little?

cause romita isn't nearly as good as he was 30 years ago.

[David]

I haven't checked out Nova since before War of Kings.  And I read the few pages from the Point One one-shot, but that wasn't very clear to me.  Was that even Richard Ryder?

Because I can't really picture him diggin' dubstep.  Then again, I can't believe I get laid so obviously strange things happen all the time.

[Wood]

But what about those of us who didn't? Not even dissecting it just they only referenced the Dark Phoenix saga that stood out to me. When I watched them TF movies Prime didn't start turning into tank out of nowhere. Sam was still the same Sam from 1 and two.

Sometimes the big superhero book ain't popping for er'body. Oh and Nova was mad confusing, why is he so little?

You do you, my friend. All I'm saying is that I'M approaching it that way. And if I didn't? I wouldn't imagine it would be as easy to enjoy.  There are lots of people who HATE popcorn flicks, because they can't remove the critical eye they cast toward all movies. I feel badly for them, but I understand their opinions are no less valid than ours.

[Ryan 'gobo' C.]

I haven't checked out Nova since before War of Kings.  And I read the few pages from the Point One one-shot, but that wasn't very clear to me.  Was that even Richard Ryder?

Because I can't really picture him diggin' dubstep.  Then again, I can't believe I get laid so obviously strange things happen all the time.

Nope, that wasn't Ryder. I don't think they've said who it is yet.

[legion of daves]

I haven't checked out Nova since before War of Kings.  And I read the few pages from the Point One one-shot, but that wasn't very clear to me.  Was that even Richard Ryder?

Because I can't really picture him diggin' dubstep.  Then again, I can't believe I get laid so obviously strange things happen all the time.

do they even have dubstep in space?

[David]

Nope, that wasn't Ryder. I don't think they've said who it is yet.

I'm going with Sam Alexander until proven otherwise.

[David]

do they even have dubstep in space?

Considering the crap we transmit, it wouldn't surprise me.

[S. Earl]

I'm going with Sam Alexander until proven otherwise.

Wasn't he created by Loeb in that .1 issue from last year? So... we should learn his identity in about 1 and a half years when he takes off his helmet and he has a mustache.