The OFFICIAL AvX Thread

[valance_the_hunter]

the script was  one of the worst that i can remember reading.  some of the lines were just embarrassingly bad.

I just read AvX #2 and I kind of had that same feeling.  

[GLewis]

So far, I am having a lot of fun with this. I really enjoyed the first two issues. I'm in a generally up mood about comics these days though.

Did anyone notice at the end of number two the writing in Wanda's Journal?

It was a sketch of the Phoenix Force with the words, "This is how the world ends." These are the same words Hickman uses over again, in SHIELD.

I'm beginning to think this is going to be bigger and more important to continuity than most people think. In issue one Cyclops tells everyone that the Phoenix always brings Rebirth. Death and rebirth.

Could this be a reboot?

Are the "Architects" building a new Marvel U?

[legion of daves]

so what you're saying is that AvX is marvel's Flashpoint.

[Planck length]

i didn't like it. i think it was the captions, they seemed lame to me. Like that Frank miller All star batman narration but tied to no one character.

going to wait a few days then read it again without reading any captions to see if that was it.  

[JoeyN]

I don't see it being an entire world reboot, but I do think it will change a lot of stuff.  I enjoyed the second issue a lot on the story front, some panels though are not a good look.

I really liked the encounters of

Tony/Emma, Magento/Quicksilver, Red Hulk/Colossus, and Luke Cage/Namor. The last part with Hope taking down wolverine was some good stuff also.

[S. Earl]

Shouldn't the poetry be bad? I mean... Wanda isn't exactly known for not being dramatic.

[jdudley]

The comicbook industry is in an interesting place right now. The average reader gets some pretty deep and well-plotted storytelling in their comics these days (Snyder, Hickman, Remender fit this kind of storytelling into top ten selling superhero titles)
So I think the critics are consequently a bit harsh on books like AvX. Just my opinion.
Personally, I thought that issue #2 was both ubsurd and also a hell of a lot of fun. It's Avengers vs. X-Men and it SHOULD be insanely melodramatic and made to feel like the biggest thing in the world!!

I love how over the top Aaron wrote this issue. Modern "realistic" writers are well and good but I honestly think Avengers comics like this should be allowed to have "punches that shake the San Andreas fault!"

[Brian G]

I love how over the top Aaron wrote this issue. Modern "realistic" writers are well and good but I honestly think Avengers comics like this should be allowed to have "punches that shake the San Andreas fault!"

It did feel rather old school didn't it? Aaron knows how to do fun.

[valance_the_hunter]

I love a good steel cage death match as much as the next guy…but riding this "epic" out ten issues later/forty dollars later is just not in the cards.  

[Planck length]

I love how over the top Aaron wrote this issue. Modern "realistic" writers are well and good but I honestly think Avengers comics like this should be allowed to have "punches that shake the San Andreas fault!"

i have no problem with the punch doing that and the comic being not realistic at all. i have no problem with a comic full of fighting. i have loved bunches of comics like that.  this just was not fun to read.

You could call it telling not showing; which is certainly is in this case. The lines fall flat maybe more so because they are captions instead of lines the characters says. i fell like i am watching an action movie and it's interactive so these little pop up boxes come up with commentary and things you didn't know but All it's doing, in this cases, is taking away from the rest of the comic.

[Dean S.]

I thought it was okay.....  Are all the fights in AvX: Versus going to be from this one issue?  Didn't it kinda seem that way?  And what was the deal with the Q-Tips?

As for whether there could be a reboot?  I guess there could be, right?  But....I'd be more curious about the execution of a reboot than just having a reboot for the sake of doing a reboot...

[RobCVela]

I think that the New Nova may be a reformed villian. He was all concerned about not being taken to a hospital because they would take off his mask in the Infinite #1 issue. I know it ain't Nova.  Haven't read the 2nd issue. waiting for my dcbservice delivery.

[RedMoses]

I agree with Planck length.  The captions came across as hoaky and distracting.  Also, nothing happened in the book.  $3.99 to see a book full of punches (isn't that what AvX: Versus is for), and maybe a page and a half of actual story movement.

Read Wolverine and the X-Men 9 for a good AvX book.  Also Aaron.

[InspectorSpacetime]

it was fine. some of the scenes would had been better if interpreted by another artist.

its playing like a dc event were every character shows up for a panel the world blows up, and then:


and some characters end up with different costumes or babies that rapidly age and then vanish from the dcu.

[RedMoses]

To me, it felt like Aaron was trying to make it feel EPIC... and I've seen all of these guys punch each other before. 

[Julian Lytle]

I'm partially mad at myself that I'd said I'd write about this event for my friend's site.  I don't like this. I don't get it. I don't know how the Phoenix got to be so evil all the sudden when it only went crazy once cause it decided to be Jean Grey for a minute. Like I can get past some fast and loose continuity but straight up ignoring like mad shit. That shit is played.

[jdudley]

it was fine. some of the scenes would had been better if interpreted by another artist.

its playing like a dc event were every character shows up for a panel the world blows up, and then:


and some characters end up with different costumes or babies that rapidly age and then vanish from the dcu.

I do agree with many here: issue #2 could have been MUCH better as interpreted by another artist. I'd actually love to see what another artist could have done with the exact same script.

[Tom Morris]

I enjoyed the issue, but it wasn't better than the first one, it was a big ole fight issue.  I think this is setting up the real plot.  Which will be the Avengers and X-men fighting several times as the threat of the Phoenix gets closer. 

Julian, did you read Point One?  Unfortunately that showed the Phoenix Force eat another planet.  That is why the Avengers are scared and Scott knows that it has happen before but he is too stupid/love sick for Jean to care.  This is not about saving Mutants, Cap called him out on it in this issue.  That's what broke the rift with Scott and Logan. 

 

[Julian Lytle]

I enjoyed the issue, but it wasn't better than the first one, it was a big ole fight issue.  I think this is setting up the real plot.  Which will be the Avengers and X-men fighting several times as the threat of the Phoenix gets closer. 

Julian, did you read Point One?  Unfortunately that showed the Phoenix Force eat another planet.  That is why the Avengers are scared and Scott knows that it has happen before but he is too stupid/love sick for Jean to care.  This is not about saving Mutants, Cap called him out on it in this issue.  That's what broke the rift with Scott and Logan. 

 

Yeah I did read Point One and that didn't make sense either. The Phoenix Force was never said to do that on its own. All that eating the broccoli people happened after being "Jean" and being corupted by the Hellfire club. Like I haven't read that joint in years and I remember that (thank you X-Men cartoon). But they seriously changing what the phoenix is and I don't like it.

I did like this issue more than issue one. LESS FUCKING TALKING.

[Tom Morris]

Yeah I did read Point One and that didn't make sense either. The Phoenix Force was never said to do that on its own. All that eating the broccoli people happened after being "Jean" and being corupted by the Hellfire club. Like I haven't read that joint in years and I remember that (thank you X-Men cartoon). But they seriously changing what the phoenix is and I don't like it.

I did like this issue more than issue one. LESS FUCKING TALKING.

I know and yet people complained about the narration boxes, which were over done on purpose,  Jason Aaron is making fun on how those boxes are used by other writers so much (Batman)