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« Reply #20 on: 01:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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Yes, you can. In fact, Tom's summation of the events of the issue are far more enjoyable a read than the actual comic. RESIST!  I'm talking in FUTURE issues Vince. lol Y'know, next month? #5 and so on? Seriously, Idk why I didn't check SUBMIT. There were LOTS of copies at the mall lcs i went to. |
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« Reply #21 on: 01:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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Submit is definitely not essential to the story. The pacing is WAY different from Final Crisis, and the art is wonky in places. Overall I did enjoy it but it is much more of an action movie sequence.
That said I did enjoy Tattooed Man's story arc.
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« Reply #22 on: 01:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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Seriously, Idk why I didn't check SUBMIT. There were LOTS of copies at the mall lcs i went to.
I'm gonna bet there will still be a lot of copies available next week, too. Submit's a cheapie box book, at best. By a Star Wars comic, instead.  |
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« Reply #23 on: 01:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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So could that be ? Thanks for the Submit spoiler my LCS was out of copies when I went yesterday afternoon. I guess I better find this soon. BD But he's a guy, maybe that means |
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« Reply #24 on: 01:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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Did any one else find it unnecessary for FC:Submit to be a #1 rather than being in the FC proper? Rather than skipping a month, they could have made Submit be FC 4 last month. I do want to say both were good issues. And I enjoyed Barry and Iris' kiss. What has helped me understand anything Morrison writes is to have a big stash of KY and cover my head with it since I know that I am going to be MindF***ed after reading it  Peace out! Jonathan |
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« Reply #25 on: 01:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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I'm gonna bet there will still be a lot of copies available next week, too. Submit's a cheapie box book, at best. Buy a Star Wars comic, instead. What's that? Is that in space? lol. The vindication storyline is a smorgasbord of awesomeness, and I'm reading the first trade of KOTOR. Back to the topic- It was cool seeing the Flashes taking down the Furies. |
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« Reply #26 on: 02:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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Back to the topic- It was cool seeing the Flashes taking down the Furies.
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« Reply #27 on: 02:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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Agreed. Lots of nicely-drawn poopers in those panels. Barry is already taken. |
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« Reply #28 on: 02:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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Barry is already taken.
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« Reply #29 on: 02:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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What has helped me understand anything Morrison writes is to have a big stash of KY and cover my head with it since I know that I am going to be MindF***ed after reading it And people wonder why I keep a can of  handy when I read my comics... Karma to you Jonathan!  |
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« Reply #30 on: 02:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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Agreed. Lots of nicely-drawn poopers in those panels. I can't wait to hear the thoughts on the coming episode! AND PLEASE TALK STAR WARS GOODNESS, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY! |
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« Reply #31 on: 02:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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I can't wait to hear the thoughts on the coming episode!
AND PLEASE TALK STAR WARS GOODNESS, IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY!
Not much about FC #4 in this episode, sorry. Slack...er...David hadn't read the issue at the time of recording. Plus, I held off on the Star Wars love, too. I would hate to sound more like a broken record than I already do... Once Vector wraps, though, all bets are OFF. Ima go Star Wars CRAY-ZEE!  |
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« Reply #32 on: 03:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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Slack...er...David hadn't read the issue at the time of recording.
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« Reply #33 on: 03:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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It's a sad day when the fishie doesn't take the bait... (at the recording) DAVID: That's preposterous, I finished the- Vince: Yeah you and Marvel, I get it. You prefer crossdressing aliens over 'the gods must be crazy'. lol |
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« Reply #34 on: 04:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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And people wonder why I keep a can of handy when I read my comics... Karma to you Jonathan! My Karma right back to you, Equinox! IDEA: The Subject for upcoming FC issues can be called "Pass The Crisco!" |
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« Reply #35 on: 07:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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* Beautiful visuals, all around, but I've got to give Pacheco the MVP for this issue.
I actually thought Pacheco's art in this was a bit underwhelming. JG Jones had all these great pages that were filled with detail and interesting perspectives, and Pacheco's pages I found were more standard in comparison. Compare the Pacheco drawn scenes in the Hall of Justice (Is it the called hall of justice? I never saw Superfriends before...) to the JG Jones drawn scenes in Bludhaven where Kalabak is shown. They pretty much have the same content (a bunch of people talking) but Jones drew it a lot more dynamic IMO. Flicking through it again though, the Alan Scott scene turned out real well though. Oh, and my random point; I shouted with glee twice while reading this book: 1 - When the Wizz Wagon showed up with Mr Miracle in it. 2 - When the Great 10 were shown to be Watchtower 6. I loooooved the Great 10! |
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« Reply #36 on: 07:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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I'm curious to see how Geoff Johns spins Morrison's goofball shit into the Return of Barry Allen proper.
Anyone else have a sense at times that when you're reading the book, we're missing panels from the story? I'm used to the whole concept of "action between panels" when reading comics, but even with things like the opening sequence at the Hall of Justice, it seemed like Ray was making reference to saving Tatooed Man but we didn't see it happen.
Because its Morrison, I figure it'll make more sense in the end, but it still takes me out of the story at times.
there was a interview where morrison said that he did that purposely to make it feel like it was actually happening because when were in a high energy situation we dont know everything thats going on, so it makes it more chaotic. |
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« Reply #37 on: 08:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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I actually thought Pacheco's art in this was a bit underwhelming. JG Jones had all these great pages that were filled with detail and interesting perspectives, and Pacheco's pages I found were more standard in comparison. Compare the Pacheco drawn scenes in the Hall of Justice (Is it the called hall of justice? I never saw Superfriends before...) to the JG Jones drawn scenes in Bludhaven where Kalabak is shown. They pretty much have the same content (a bunch of people talking) but Jones drew it a lot more dynamic IMO.
I thought Pacheco dumbed down his visuals a bit in order to match up better with Jones; IMHO, Pacheco could've done sooo much more with his artwork in this issue. |
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« Reply #38 on: 08:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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I thought Pacheco dumbed down his visuals a bit in order to match up better with Jones; IMHO, Pacheco could've done sooo much more with his artwork in this issue.
It could be that. His work on Superman from a couple of years ago was amazing. |
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« Reply #39 on: 08:10 PM | Thursday, October 23, 2008 » |
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I thought Pacheco dumbed down his visuals a bit in order to match up better with Jones; IMHO, Pacheco could've done sooo much more with his artwork in this issue.
I was gonna say the same. I remember the Superman/Batman and GL work, and he's cleaner and tighter on those inks compared to JG. |
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