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« Reply #20 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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« Reply #21 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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It's the first half of a four-hour show, guys.
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« Reply #22 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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I'm gonna have to disagree. Some of my favorite X-Stories are the future ones. I especially liked the last arc of Morrison's New X-Men run. Maybe I'm just a really depressed person, but I like reading about how hopeless the future is for mutants.
I loved Morrison's run EXCEPT for that story. Did we ever see a future where stuff worked out? That would be a cool change of pace. Obviously it isn't great for storytelling but you open the door to that kind of thinking when every couple years we have a story where the future sucks. I guess that is also why I always preffered the Legion. It always felt like there was a good chance that things would work out in the future. I am a future half full guy I guess. |
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« Reply #23 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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Yeah, I know, but in total.... That's insane!!! No it's not- oh no... INSANE in the membrane, INSANE IN THE BRAIN!   |
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« Reply #24 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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I loved Morrison's run EXCEPT for that story.
Did we ever see a future where stuff worked out? That would be a cool change of pace. Obviously it isn't great for storytelling but you open the door to that kind of thinking when every couple years we have a story where the future sucks.
The "Legends of the Dead Earth" story from the Starman Annual showed a future where things were okay. Sure, Earth was long since abandoned, but humanity had endured and prospered and was better for doing so. |
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« Reply #25 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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I think I gave this one the explicit tag for sure. I was kind of pissed after getting home from the shop.
Sold! Now I just have to get home and add the damn thing to my iPod...  |
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« Reply #26 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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The "Legends of the Dead Earth" story from the Starman Annual showed a future where things were okay. Sure, Earth was long since abandoned, but humanity had endured and prospered and was better for doing so.
I was referring just to X-men future stories. |
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« Reply #27 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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I loved Morrison's run EXCEPT for that story.
Did we ever see a future where stuff worked out? That would be a cool change of pace. Obviously it isn't great for storytelling but you open the door to that kind of thinking when every couple years we have a story where the future sucks.
I guess that is also why I always preffered the Legion. It always felt like there was a good chance that things would work out in the future.
I am a future half full guy I guess.
I dig certain kinds of time travel. A lot of the Exiles worked for me, for example. But what kills me [as you said] is that the X-Men used the same construct over and over. Bring someone back from the future OR send someone to the future in hopes of changing mutant kinds' fate. UGH. In an unrelated note, nice to see a drunk, sniffly Blue Meanie up in this piece! |
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« Reply #28 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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I loved Morrison's run EXCEPT for that story.
Did we ever see a future where stuff worked out? That would be a cool change of pace. Obviously it isn't great for storytelling but you open the door to that kind of thinking when every couple years we have a story where the future sucks.
The last story is actually my favorite of Morrison's run on New X-Men and I think it does kind of end well. A bad future was averted and Jean got to make the ultimate sacrifice for the man she loved. Sure it's an ugly future that was shown but the story ended on hope, showing that the future wasn't yet set and that a happy ending could be written for Scott and his team. |
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« Reply #29 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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I dig certain kinds of time travel. A lot of the Exiles worked for me, for example. But what kills me [as you said] is that the X-Men used the same construct over and over. Bring someone back from the future OR send someone to the future in hopes of changing mutant kinds' fate. UGH.
Depends on the writer and the era for me; Morrison's story, meh. Claremont's "Days of Future Past",  |
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« Reply #30 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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Man...we haven't even mentioned Rachel Summers yet.
Was that the future or an alternate timeline?
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« Reply #31 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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I loved Morrison's run EXCEPT for that story.
Did we ever see a future where stuff worked out? That would be a cool change of pace. Obviously it isn't great for storytelling but you open the door to that kind of thinking when every couple years we have a story where the future sucks.
I guess that is also why I always preffered the Legion. It always felt like there was a good chance that things would work out in the future.
I am a future half full guy I guess.
Fair enough. I think maybe I enjoy them more because I have less of an attachment to the X-Men and the novelity of seeing the characters look different is enough for me.  Maybe this should go in the confessional thread, but I haven't read Days of Future Past yet. I've read a good chunk of the Claremont run, but never got to that part yet. One of my favorite future stories of recent years though was the Camelot Falls arc of Busiek/Pacheco's Superman run. It was only 2 issues, but I got so into the characters and the world. It's too bad they really didn't get many more issues to follow up on some of the stuff. |
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« Reply #32 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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Was that the future or an alternate timeline?
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« Reply #33 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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Love the Dead Kennedys opening.
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« Reply #34 on: 05:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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Just heard the episode. It was cool that my call made it on. and talk about a cliff hanger........Damn I need a time machine.
"MARTY , WE'RE GOING TO THE FUTURE !!!!!"
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« Reply #35 on: 06:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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I love the original TMNT issues back in the day.
THOSE MUST BE REPRINTED NOW!
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« Reply #36 on: 06:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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Also, about the OMACs: I think the two different OMACs seen on FC#5 and Resist (old school and new school respectively) are seperate weapons. Remember that the new school OMACs are inside thousands of ordinary people out in the world while the old school (Biomacs) are created inside the castle.
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« Reply #37 on: 08:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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I always liked (most not all) the X-Men time travel stories because I always thought a lot of them where about avoiding alternate timelines and possible futures. I always have had this understanding that in X-verse that the future isn't solid. I guess when you think about that it will give you a head ache.
I think that x-men's largest problem is that it doesn't work very well inside the marvel universe itself. How can we believe that there is a world where people look up to a few heroes but have a unnatural hate against any mutant born that way? I know that heroes in Marvel have always been a little bit feared, but not as much as the X-Men. One superhero Civil War will never compare the for long legacy of Mutant Hate in Marvel. I mean they live in the same world as the Hulk and they hate a few Mutants?
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« Reply #38 on: 08:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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Man...we haven't even mentioned Rachel Summers yet.
Was that the future or an alternate timeline?
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« Reply #39 on: 08:12 PM | Thursday, December 18, 2008 » |
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Love the Dead Kennedys opening.
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