11 O'Clock Comics Episode 41

[David]

PPS: Dark Horse had launched Nexus as a series of trades, before trades became the viable format of today. It died on the vine. If they were to reissue those today for $12–$17 per trade, it would be great.

I have the first one, with a foreward by Baron.

And Paul Smith's Uncanny run was far, far too short.

Awwww

[kent]

I totally have to give Mr. Wood some love and karma for articulating all the things that have frustrated me about the reception of Final Crisis. Especially that he, unlike myself, was not a jackass about it either. Many props!

[aSh]

Wood:

Power Girl doesn't have to be drawn overly ripped. Some artists do draw her that way, but to me she doesn't look like China on wwe. Amanda Connor draws a beautiful Power Girl who does not just have a dude's body with really big boobs.  She is just a tad well endowed.

Power Girl is also one of the first DC Female Superheroes who was developed outside of the off shoot male secondary mentality that pleagues many female chractors (ie: Batgirl, Hawkgirl, Supergirl). While she was Earth-2 Superman's cousin, she went to extreme lengths to seperate herself from her cousin (example: she would take no emblem that was similar to Superman's S, she wore white not blue, her name) and she would not tolerate sexism or patorinizing atitudes from the other male superheroes. I am not saying that Power Girl is the only chracter like this, but she does stand out as a great example that female heroes can be stong and beautiful (especially when Wally Wood inked her in the All Star: Justice Society stories).

DC messed up her origin over the years, and wrongly depowered her, but Geoff Johns restored the Power Girl that Paul Levits help create and develop back in the 70s.

So, if the presentation of Power Girl throws you off, remember her roots.

[Sean M.]

With regard to Steve Rude, he was the first comic book creator I ever met- he signed my copy of 'World's Finest' back in 1990. I did start buying the Rude Dude Productions Nexus stuff but I kind of lost track of it- I think the releases were irregular or something. I'd love to get hold of trades, not least because the Nexus costume is one of the best on comics. 

[Qibai]

HAWWW--this is a classic

[Wood]

Wood:

Power Girl doesn't have to be drawn overly ripped. Some artists do draw her that way, but to me she doesn't look like China on wwe. Amanda Connor draws a beautiful Power Girl who does not just have a dude's body with really big boobs.  She is just a tad well endowed.

Power Girl is also one of the first DC Female Superheroes who was developed outside of the off shoot male secondary mentality that pleagues many female chractors (ie: Batgirl, Hawkgirl, Supergirl). While she was Earth-2 Superman's cousin, she went to extreme lengths to seperate herself from her cousin (example: she would take no emblem that was similar to Superman's S, she wore white not blue, her name) and she would not tolerate sexism or patorinizing atitudes from the other male superheroes. I am not saying that Power Girl is the only chracter like this, but she does stand out as a great example that female heroes can be stong and beautiful (especially when Wally Wood inked her in the All Star: Justice Society stories).

DC messed up her origin over the years, and wrongly depowered her, but Geoff Johns restored the Power Girl that Paul Levits help create and develop back in the 70s.

So, if the presentation of Power Girl throws you off, remember her roots.

In virtually every instance I've seen of her, she's drawn with big fake boobs. Boobs that are too big to naturally fit with her frame. And she's also drawn to be large and muscular [admittedly not overly ripped though depending on the artist]. NOT MY CUPPA

[New Mutant]

And eh-hem.  My comment about your prettiness, David, pertained to the first 26 minutes of the show, when all the FC #7 was coming across and you kept declining to throw in.   I haven't listened past that point yet.  See?  I did not say that was all you contributed, but even when you don't, you gots the pretty.


Now go make me some eggs and stifle the mouf, willya dere?

[JimN]

I have to agree with Vince on one thing: Steve Rude absolutely stands up to Wally Wood. He surpasses him in my opinion.

Bah!

I was with Chris on that point. Both artists have done a lot of great work but Rude's work doesn't surpass Wally Wood. I refuse to accept that!



Jim

[VinceB]

I was with Chris on that point. Both artists have done a lot of great work but Rude's work doesn't surpass Wally Wood. I refuse to accept that!

I never said surpass. That was Sal.

[Papercut]

All the Power Girl talk means it's time for more cos-play! 



But in all honesty, I don't know how anyone could dismiss the Darwyn Cooke Power Girl:




Awww...

[JimN]

I never said surpass. That was Sal.

I know. I was responding to Sal's vile sacrilege so I thought my message would be clear but alas... I blew it.

I'm kidding around anyway. I just Wally's work so I had to say something. However, when talking about two comic artists as accomplished as Wood and Rude, who is better becomes a moot point. They're both great.

By the way, Vince, we're in complete agreement about that Heathentown cover: perfection.

Jim

[JimN]

All the Power Girl talk means it's time for more cos-play! 

Why do I get the feeling that's not the sales clerk Wood (or was it David? I forget) mentioned on the podcast?

But in all honesty, I don't know how anyone could dismiss the Dawyn Cooke Power Girl

Wow... 

Jim

[VinceB]

I'm kidding around anyway. I just Wally's work so I had to say something. However, when talking about two comic artists as accomplished as Wood and Rude, who is better becomes a moot point. They're both great.

Agreed. I'm just giving you a hard time. I need to keep in practice for when I talk to David.

By the way, Vince, we're in complete agreement about that Heathentown cover: perfection.

Love it. I need to scare up a copy at NYCC.

[JimN]

Agreed. I'm just giving you a hard time. I need to keep in practice for when I talk to David.

I'm sure he appreciates the practice you put in...

Love it. I need to scare up a copy at NYCC.

I'm hoping to pick one up at the LCS tomorrow. I've been lookin' forward to this book!

Jim

[El Dave]

Actually, now that I think about it, everyone should read Yotsuba&! too. If you don't love that book, and that girl, you have no soul.

Quoted for TRUTH! 

[citizenDave]

Wow, Final Crisis sounds kinda cool. But as somebody who doesn't read any mainline DC, I'd be hopelessly lost.

I did just read Kirby's New Gods for the first time last week. So, that's somethin', right?

Thanks for the Johnny Wadd shoutout at the end of the show, guys! I  you all.

[steve bryant]

Love it. I need to scare up a copy at NYCC.

Gabriel will have copies for sale...I think he's splitting space with the Ape folks.

I got my copy of it today and it. is. awesome.

[Pat Loika]

Great show, guys.

I enjoyed the Emma Frost talk. Though you guys should know that the cover to that annual is by Yanick Pacquette.

T-bolts has been great for awhile now, and like Chris said, it definitely feels like an Andy Diggle book. He also nailed the characterizations of all those characters, particularly, the new Ant-Man and Black Widow.

People take heed of Darrell's voicemail. There's tons of great comic books at the library.

And while I liked Final Crisis as a whole, I thought the somewhat disjointed narrative of the last issue took away from my first couple of readings of the book. BTW, this book should've been Mahnke's from the beginning.

P.

[Bill Doughty]

If I may sound like Wood for a second, RE-SPECT for all the Tom Grummett love on this episode, guys.  I would put Grummett on my short list of favorite superhero artists ever.  Such a clean and simple but still expressive style, the textbook definition of "economy of line" in my mind, right alongside folks like M.D. Bright and, lately, The Norton.  In the era of crazy crosshatching, his work on Robin and Superboy really stood out to me.  I don't think he gets enough props from fandom, so I'm always excited when I hear someone praise him.

[deadcowaroma]

2) I'd concur that AKIRA (specifically in the US) is probably manga's WATCHMEN (if the we absolutely have to make the comparison), and to extend this thought process out, then LONE WOLF AND CUB is manga's DARK KNIGHT RETURNS (though according to Miller, it's probably flip-flopped).

Akira is one of the greatest comic books ever. It was so good, I never had the urge to read another manga again. If I read anything else, it will just dilute my manga experience.