The Bullpen

[Nojfotra (Jonathan D. Gordon)]

. The Flash, however, can work. So can the Atom or Hawkman or Zatanna.

I personally think that they should have started with Green Arrow. He is a street level character like you say and he has personality that would transfer to the big screen very well.

One set of DC characters that are criminally untapped wrt movies is the Doom Patrol. Under the right direction and script, and an art director who knows how to work out the look, it could be awesome.

I guess my point is that outside of flash, none of those characters are known to 95% of the world and most cant even carry their own comic in our circles that know who they are.  DC's frontline characters are horribly dated in a superfriends world that doesn't attract large audiences to movie theaters.

[Nojfotra (Jonathan D. Gordon)]

 if the costume design is going to keep you from going to see green lantern, that's fine, but that's not going to stop it from being a good movie.  

Actually a REALLY bad costume design (such as most people find the GL film to be going for ) could be something that takes viewers out of the movie.  That makes for a bad movie.

[Tempo House]

I guess my point is that outside of flash, none of those characters are known to 95% of the world and most cant even carry their own comic in our circles that know who they are.  DC's frontline characters are horribly dated in a superfriends world that doesn't attract large audiences to movie theaters.

They don't need to be widely known to be successful. I believe Iron Man I proved that. What matters here is whether these characters can be presented in a cinematically exciting fashion wrapped inside a good story and good direction and a good marketing campaign. That's where DC's problem has been. They have been way too Superman/Batman centric in their movie strategy. It appears to me that the problem is Warner is not synched up with what DC has to offer.

BTW, I believe Justice League and Justice Unlimited and the Brave and the Bold probably present a better view of the DC characters than the Superfriends of a couple of decades back. Those series may not be as popular, but the truth is DC has been fairly successful in the animation area than you seem to be giving them credit for.

[David]

Having never read the comic, I thought the Jonah Hex movie was entertaining.

Did they make a comic adaptation of the movie?  Because that's the only way you'll get that Jonah Hex in a comic book.

[deadcowaroma]

Actually a REALLY bad costume design (such as most people find the GL film to be going for ) could be something that takes viewers out of the movie.  That makes for a bad movie.

Agree! Costume design is a part of the movie.

[Nojfotra (Jonathan D. Gordon)]

BTW, I believe Justice League and Justice Unlimited and the Brave and the Bold probably present a better view of the DC characters than the Superfriends of a couple of decades back. Those series may not be as popular, but the truth is DC has been fairly successful in the animation area than you seem to be giving them credit for.

I love both of those series. thats my point though. DC characters work better animated. Marvel characters work well  live action and suck animated. its a trade off.

[SilverBulletKY]

Did they make a comic adaptation of the movie?  Because that's the only way you'll get that Jonah Hex in a comic book.

I'm sure that's the reason that I liked it and the same reason why all the people I know that say they liked Spiderman 3 have never read an issue.

[Night (Travis) Nurse]

Actually a REALLY bad costume design (such as most people find the GL film to be going for ) could be something that takes viewers out of the movie.  That makes for a bad movie.

Ive heard a lot of non comic people talk about how excited they are to see the movie and not a single one has mentioned that the costume is a turn off, the average movie goer doesn't care. The only people that are going to get offended are comic fans and there getting most of our money anyway.

Travis

[deadcowaroma]

Ive heard a lot of non comic people talk about how excited they are to see the movie and not a single one has mentioned that the costume is a turn off, the average movie goer doesn't care. The only people that are going to get offended are comic fans and there getting most of our money anyway.

Travis

Ehhhh I don't know if I'd agree with that. I've heard people say that certain characters in certain movies looked dumb and that's directly related to the costume design.

[Dotanuki]

They don't need to be widely known to be successful. I believe Iron Man I proved that.  

Good grief, Star Wars proved this 34 years ago!  It doesn't matter how well Robot Man, Elasti-Girl and Negative Man are known. Nobody knew who Darth Vader was and here we are, a short-lifetime later, arguing about the relative merits of his character while Lucas smokes cigars made of thousand-dollar bills...

Costume Desgin, Makeup, Art Direction, Sound Editing, Screenwriting, Set Dressing, ad infinitum...you can have all these things firing on all metaphorical cylinders with characters no one's ever heard of and have a HIT...or a dud. The audience will always be fickle, I think. I also think you increase your HIT-chances or even "cult film status" chances with solid production values. Lynch's crazy adaptation of Dune is a favorite example of the latter for me...I love the way it looks and sounds even if the final result feels lopsided and messy, more or less.

Edit: Lucas' history-making merchandising of his characters back in '77 probably have as much to do with (probably way more to do with, no dis intended to James Earl Jones et al.) Darth-Vader-the-household-name 34 years later as the performances in "A New Hope" do.

[AztecLos]

Interesting article here.

"Stop fussing about Wonder Woman and just do"

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/05/quote-of-the-day-stop-fussing-about-wonder-woman-and-just-do/

[leafinsectman (Dan)]

Interesting article here.

"Stop fussing about Wonder Woman and just do"

http://robot6.comicbookresources.com/2011/05/quote-of-the-day-stop-fussing-about-wonder-woman-and-just-do/

I read that as well. Would it confuse too many people if they didn't do an origin story? Could you not just allude to a character's origin and mostly fill it with awesome scenes (as long as they make sense)? Oh whatever, I'm no film maker so I wouldn't know.

[AztecLos]

Yeah a simple reference wear she comes from would not be bad. Plus they could do an origin story if she was to return to Paradise Island. Or they could just do flash backs to her growing up and how it relates to an episode.